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	<title>Comments on: Episode 9 &#8211; Gun Control</title>
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		<title>By: Alex Riobinson</title>
		<link>http://theinkpanthers.mikedawsoncomics.com/episode-9-gun-control/comment-page-1/#comment-19</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Riobinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 22:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After some debate on the Facebook page I have updated my definitio on novelty songs. The following are characteristics of a novelty song:

1) the author intended it to be funny (the catalog of &quot;Weird&quot; Al Yankovic)
2) the author did not intend a song to be funny but the song is so over the top that no one takes it seriously (William Shatner doing &quot;Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds&quot;)

The trick with this, of course, is that it depends on knowing the author&#039;s intent. Also, the following characterstics are worth one point each; if a song has more than three points it becomes a novelty song just by attrition:
--having a story that resolves in a twist ending (&quot;Lola&quot;
or &quot;Escape! (the Pina Colada Song)&quot;).
--Unusual subject matter (Yellow submarines, distopian futures in which robots are thanked)
--spoken word(&quot;Thriller&quot; &quot;Everybody&#039;s Free to Wear Sunscreen&quot;)
--a musical &quot;gimmick&quot; (children&#039;s choir, strings, employing an odd vocal style like opera).

There are many popular songs which use one of even two of these features which are not novelty songs. For instance, &quot;Fool in the Rain&quot; by Led Zeppelin has both a twist ending and a musical gimmick (spanish flavored interlude) but a lack of a third item just makes it unique, not a novelty.
Also, videos do not count. It is hard when you have a video like &quot;Thriller&quot; which is virtually inseparable from the song but we must draw the line somewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After some debate on the Facebook page I have updated my definitio on novelty songs. The following are characteristics of a novelty song:</p>
<p>1) the author intended it to be funny (the catalog of &#8220;Weird&#8221; Al Yankovic)<br />
2) the author did not intend a song to be funny but the song is so over the top that no one takes it seriously (William Shatner doing &#8220;Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds&#8221;)</p>
<p>The trick with this, of course, is that it depends on knowing the author&#8217;s intent. Also, the following characterstics are worth one point each; if a song has more than three points it becomes a novelty song just by attrition:<br />
&#8211;having a story that resolves in a twist ending (&#8220;Lola&#8221;<br />
or &#8220;Escape! (the Pina Colada Song)&#8221;).<br />
&#8211;Unusual subject matter (Yellow submarines, distopian futures in which robots are thanked)<br />
&#8211;spoken word(&#8220;Thriller&#8221; &#8220;Everybody&#8217;s Free to Wear Sunscreen&#8221;)<br />
&#8211;a musical &#8220;gimmick&#8221; (children&#8217;s choir, strings, employing an odd vocal style like opera).</p>
<p>There are many popular songs which use one of even two of these features which are not novelty songs. For instance, &#8220;Fool in the Rain&#8221; by Led Zeppelin has both a twist ending and a musical gimmick (spanish flavored interlude) but a lack of a third item just makes it unique, not a novelty.<br />
Also, videos do not count. It is hard when you have a video like &#8220;Thriller&#8221; which is virtually inseparable from the song but we must draw the line somewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: John K</title>
		<link>http://theinkpanthers.mikedawsoncomics.com/episode-9-gun-control/comment-page-1/#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>John K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 23:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No offense taken, Kenny.  In fact, I concur!  Another fun show, guys!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No offense taken, Kenny.  In fact, I concur!  Another fun show, guys!</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Clough</title>
		<link>http://theinkpanthers.mikedawsoncomics.com/episode-9-gun-control/comment-page-1/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Clough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If a song has ever been played on the Dr Demento show, it&#039;s a novelty song.  

If a song is explicitly designed as part of a comedy act, it&#039;s a novelty song (even if it&#039;s a really good song, like Flight of the Conchords&#039; material).

I also don&#039;t think novelty/non-novelty is a binary relationship.  I think there are rock songs that have some novelty aspects about them (like Thriller, or things like Far Away Eyes by the Rolling Stones).  

A song that&#039;s funny isn&#039;t necessarily a novelty song.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If a song has ever been played on the Dr Demento show, it&#8217;s a novelty song.  </p>
<p>If a song is explicitly designed as part of a comedy act, it&#8217;s a novelty song (even if it&#8217;s a really good song, like Flight of the Conchords&#8217; material).</p>
<p>I also don&#8217;t think novelty/non-novelty is a binary relationship.  I think there are rock songs that have some novelty aspects about them (like Thriller, or things like Far Away Eyes by the Rolling Stones).  </p>
<p>A song that&#8217;s funny isn&#8217;t necessarily a novelty song.</p>
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		<title>By: Kenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 19:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way I agree that &quot;Thriller&quot; is a novelty song, it was more your loose definition that I disagreed with. But honestly I can&#039;t get a hold of what makes a song a novelty song myself no matter how many criteria I define.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way I agree that &#8220;Thriller&#8221; is a novelty song, it was more your loose definition that I disagreed with. But honestly I can&#8217;t get a hold of what makes a song a novelty song myself no matter how many criteria I define.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://theinkpanthers.mikedawsoncomics.com/episode-9-gun-control/comment-page-1/#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Kenny! 

btw: Since I know you had a bit of an opinion about the novelty songs thing, I have been thinking about my own dubious definition of novelty song vs. regular song. My new thinking is along the lines of &quot;If a song is about a specific character and a specific story, then it is closer to a novelty song. If a song is about a more universal &quot;character&quot;, where the listener applies the lyrics and sentiments to his/her own life, then it&#039;s closer to a regular song.&quot; I have to work on this a little more though, before I&#039;m ready to argue about it &quot;on the air&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Kenny! </p>
<p>btw: Since I know you had a bit of an opinion about the novelty songs thing, I have been thinking about my own dubious definition of novelty song vs. regular song. My new thinking is along the lines of &#8220;If a song is about a specific character and a specific story, then it is closer to a novelty song. If a song is about a more universal &#8220;character&#8221;, where the listener applies the lyrics and sentiments to his/her own life, then it&#8217;s closer to a regular song.&#8221; I have to work on this a little more though, before I&#8217;m ready to argue about it &#8220;on the air&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Kenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, great episode. You, Alex, and Tony are the a excellent three-piece (no offense to John.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, great episode. You, Alex, and Tony are the a excellent three-piece (no offense to John.)</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not great at Jersey City geography, but it was very north, up near Union City? It wasn&#039;t like a store-front, it was a space at the back of a hall, where some gun-organization meets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not great at Jersey City geography, but it was very north, up near Union City? It wasn&#8217;t like a store-front, it was a space at the back of a hall, where some gun-organization meets.</p>
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		<title>By: Kenny</title>
		<link>http://theinkpanthers.mikedawsoncomics.com/episode-9-gun-control/comment-page-1/#comment-10</link>
		<dc:creator>Kenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where in Jersey City did you go shooting? Downtown or in Greenville? Just wondering as the guys who owned the Downtown store got in trouble a while back for having an unregistered gun in his car, the cops finding this out after he pulled out a gun to threaten some people who had parked too close to his car.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where in Jersey City did you go shooting? Downtown or in Greenville? Just wondering as the guys who owned the Downtown store got in trouble a while back for having an unregistered gun in his car, the cops finding this out after he pulled out a gun to threaten some people who had parked too close to his car.</p>
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